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classicswim) wrote2024-02-14 07:48 pm
[as] TZ ‘04 Year in Review - February
[DC Comics using Space Ghost, 1/28/04 - 2/2/04]
Oh yeah.
*Groans*
I forgot they started this early.
•••• JeffTMBG writes: I can't even fathom what the hell would make them even contemplate this. Space Ghost was a joke long before C2C came around. There is nothing in the least bit compelling about the character as originally conceived. He is utterly generic as far as super heroes go. Hell, C2C wouldn't exist if this weren't the case. The only audience this comic could possibly have would be curious C2C fans and the 7 people who actually consider the old show to be good.
What's next, Sealab as a serial drama? ••••
^ Now as I read this, and I still mostly agree on this sentiment... all I can picture once again is the Eltingville Club (created by C2C writer!) panel of them not liking Coast to Coast. This is like the Bizarro version of that lol.
Space Ghost was, and still is a vital part of my sense of humor. And as such... I like the character and how he looks.
I sought out the ‘66 cartoon series many years ago strictly because I wanted to see where C2C got everything from. Was funny seeing those exact same shots play out in what was actual scenes.
Yeah, Toth hated C2C and Sealab 2021. Williams Street guys like Andy Merrill (Brak) and Adam Reed easily clapped back with “um, your shows sucked.”
Here’s the thing.
Remember very early in C2C when they had George Lowe do that miserable fucking Gary Owens impersonation? Before they actually got him speaking normally? And before they got Owens a guest spot on the show much later?
I’m more intrigued with the fact these guys were the truest, objectively sole fans of Toth’s bizarre creations. New life was created through these parodies, which would otherwise still be a corpse faded beneath obscurity.
Sealab’s a nugget from my time that’s depressingly aged like milk in some spots. And even then, I believe they set a reasonable precedent on how to lampoon without being up your own ass.
Nothing about Captain Murphy or Mailbox Wendy or Bizarro Quinn/Turtleface or any of that stuff was as surface level and stereotypical as the junk they’re unironically trying to pass off now.
I think about how Sealab did a full-on redubbing of an episode from the old series and played it all the way straight till the credit sequence. That was the rawest because they didn’t have to do virtually anything. Today’s creatives would give themselves an aneurism trying not to add in their artificial snark.
No shit a “serious” adaptation on Space Ghost would not at all be taken seriously. Comic or otherwise.
But it’s 6 issues from what I can gather. And you’re only gonna look at it for the art.
Oh and... they’re making new ones.
The Ghost Rises... May 2024.
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[ATHF is cooler than Britney Spears!!!] - Feb 6, 2004
This is what I’d love about my old fandom.
Being happy over dumb shit like having our favorite show outrank a pop singer on a Entertainment Weekly list.
The only thing that *rarely* stopped EW from being a shit publication was any time they stuck up for the Adult Swim shows. AV Club was better. Don’t remind me of what happened to AV Club.
What’s more victorious here is having the DVD specifically earn the praise. Of all the DVDs I have, ATHF Volume 2 is almost always on standby. Also, Volume 3. That’d still be the case even if I wasn’t searching for a new VCR.
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[Family Guy to the big screen... it might happen.] - Feb 6, 2004
*NOT!*
Just kidding. Ted.
But yeah, before we got the revival, this was as early as we started having these conversations.
Was mostly just misinfo on what would later be the direct-to-video deal. Which was already in some type of development purgatory prior as they scrapped Stewie coming out of the closet.
“Stimey Gruffin: The Untold Story? It’s not even a real movie at all, Brian! Just three episodes back-to-back. This thing is an insult.”
For the record, I guess it is in print still that there’s development on a Family Guy movie. I mean, it’s the same thing as the push for a Simpsons Movie sequel. Means nothing.
People don’t get that it’s not 2007 anymore. The campaign for Simpsons in theaters was fucking huge. Aqua Teen got in trouble for Lite-Brites on overpasses while Simpsons had the privilege of rearranging 7/11 stores.
I hold nothing against the Bob’s Burgers Movie for flopping, or that I fell asleep when watching it in the theater. Even without factoring that in, there’s just no point. There would be no pull like they had in yesteryears.
People wanted a Robot Chicken movie in theaters, too. If you could believe that.
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[10 reasons there should be an AS network] - Feb 7, 2004
Hot damn! Cooking with fire in these first couple months! All stuff that still comes up to this day.
•••• EmorynOglethorp writes:
10. They could stop Boomerang, and show it's shows on CN and AS channels
9. They have enough shows, and each with at least 13 episodes
8. As has high ratings, and high ratings equals $$$ for cn!
7. It would make everyone happy (and stop all the topics asking for one)
6. They could pick up Cartoon Planet and make everyone MORE happy
5. I would have something to watch when im bored and all the other channels have CRAP on them
4.Something good on 24/7? I've died and gone to heaven!
3. I wouldn't have to wait a week to watch my fav shows
2. It could only be able to be purchased, just like Boomerang, and pissed off moms just wouldn't buy it and then wouldn't have to worry about there kids staying up late and watching shows rated tv-pg
1. (the most important reason) AS FREAKIN RULES! ••••
6, 5, 3 & 1 are what I’d most resonate with lol.
Number 9 is the fattest fucking laughable contradiction, even more so back then. And this really means nothing anymore since you now get thirteen hours of it.
The likes of EmorynOglethorp would’ve rolled over with the cesspit of trashy Hollywood movies [as] has been saddled with since ACME.
The idea of Checkered Past really only started to linger with fanboys since the 2010s, so it’s interesting how it really has put a new lid on some of these old conversations. I say this as I swiftly dropped the block after the first week, but still. Quite the trajectory.
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[MTV on Adult Swim] - Feb 8, 2004
Old polling on which MTV cartoon most belongs on Adult Swim.
Surprisingly the most mainstream choice wasn’t even close to first place!
It goes as followed...
Beavis & Butt-Head: 10 votes
Clone High: 27 votes
Undergrads: 7 votes
Celebrity Deathmatch: 8 votes
Other: 18 votes
Some are in the constant mind of companies and brands absorbing everything, and it’s weird.
Beavis & Butt-Head’s somewhat rooted in the foundation of [as], but they’re ride or die Viacom boys.
The old argument would be how integral B&B was for MTV. Even when the MTV label is fucking dead and TITMOUSE now animates the episodes, it’s still just not meant to be.
I get the much higher approval for Clone High, in spite of what I sorta think about the original show itself.
••••Lord Dalek writes: I’d say Deathmatch, because there is no Claymation show on AS as of yet.••••
^ All Dalek had to do was wait a year for Robot Chicken (formerly Sweet J!) & Orel to rock the stop motion scene!
For the record, Wonder Showzen screams Adult Swim with its chest out, and that aired on MTV 2 of all places.
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[OFFICIAL! Family Guy action figures coming soon!] -Feb 13, 2004
Ah... Mezco.
Gotta love the dedication they had.
They truly were ahead of the curve with the merchandising and brought further outside rep of the show to life.
FG was already in popular graces by this point but I’d still give Mezco a standing ovation. The figures were that good and that much of a variety because these were fans making them.
They set the standard for the brand. I remember seeing those vending figurines at Walmart back when Walmart still had those lobster tanks on display. And it was literally every where after awhile. It was a freakin sweet mania!
I had the classic one with Peter, and used to have the Cleveland one. If I chose to buy more then I’d probably just go with Brian and Chris.
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[OFFICIAL Inuyasha action figures!] - Feb 13, 2004
Never cared that much to want an Inuyasha figure despite me kinda liking the show occasionally, but still neat!
Tainted with Kagome jokes lol.
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[Adult Swim Action Figures from Palisades] - Feb 24, 2004
Now we’re getting back to the real good shit. Kind of.
I own most of the sets. I remember taping the night they showed them off in bumps. The picture of Shake in the pool with the blondies is still so very iconic.
Got my Shake one signed by the ATHF crew when I went to see them!
They’re kinda... fragile, though.
Fragile as in, with the Brak Show set: Dad’s ass and legs fell apart after I simply touched him.
Andy Merrill himself told me those figures were pieces of shit.
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[McGuirk’s Spin-Off] - Feb 22, 2004
Adding this request in strictly because of how ridiculous it was in hindsight. Even though I myself definitely wanted his “own” show. Which he already had if you ever watched Home Movies... EVER.
Bouchard always gave Benjamin more after that. Archer especially aided that specific thirst when it came down to it.
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[Farewell Lupin...] Feb 16-Feb 22, 2004
Respects paid to Lupin The Third for leaving [as] for a bit.
That show and Bebop got my eyes pointed to anime.
Toonami is something I practically never watch, but I participated in the Lupin talkbacks and if you put that show there, I will make an effort to watch always.
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[Family Guy question.] Feb 11-Feb 29, 2004
Someone asked if they could understand Stewie.
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[Family Guy Update - Cartoon Network IS involved] - Feb 28, 2004
I’ll end this off by letting the IGN piece speak for itself.
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"Cartoon Network will be involved regardless," MacFarlane says.
"Whether it goes there permanently or winds up on Fox first and then Cartoon Network remains to be seen. So at the very least it will be on Cartoon Network, which is great because at the end of the day that's where we built our biggest fan base. So I'm happy either way."
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Bonus points for not being mean, or making fun of Toon Zone itself. People had opinions in 2004 that seem strange now. I love that you are going through them and not really giving them shit for the dumber ones. Good on you.
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Maybe I could’ve gotten away with it over on their AS folder within reason. I never formally asked because after awhile I knew it’d just be a headache waiting to happen.
Sucks too because all of it could be chalked up to decent discussion.
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